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Alpha Lo's avatar

Haha, this is the most challenging intellectually essay so far by a lot. Lots of concepts to integrate and understand.

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Great stuff!

But I strongly oppose introducing 4th law, or what some refer to as 3-rd law (syntropy), etc, because that is still only DESCRIPTIVE and not PRESCRIPTIVE, and obviously a law should have a prescriptive quality.

Instead, to make progress in this field (and make it universally applicable to economic systems, ecosystems, climate systems, technological systems, etc), it is about a proper generalization of the 2nd law: a thermodynamic system will not only increase its entropy, it will do so AS FAST AS POSSIBLE (relative to its initial position).

This is better known as the Principle of Maximum Entropy Production you refer to, but this is still not accepted as a fundamental, ubiquitous principle (let alone in 'living' and economic systems) although it has been empirically demonstrated in many domains. That is because most cannot grasp the level of abstraction required to understand this, but actually it is the same exact statistical inference that yields the 2nd law.

The thing missing from the synthesis is Chaos Theory or Complex-Dynamic Systems, with its strange attractors, fractal nature of some thermodynamic systems, which allow for the formulation of chaotic attractors of entropy production, and its associated bifurcations (birth, death), etc.

Non-technical: https://medium.com/@EntropoMetrics/one-of-the-biggest-misunderstandings-in-science-531b22e57ac8

And : "It's the entropy, stupid!" http://entropometrics.com/docs/EntropyStupid.pdf

Life and death as bifurcations in a larger system: http://entropometrics.com/blog/biflc.jsp

Technical paper: https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202103.0110/v1

Surely we are getting there! As Stephen Hawking noted: the 21st century will be about Complexity (complexity sciences, where for example the SFI has been leading the way regarding economics).

Thermodynamics + Complexity is the synthesis that makes a 4th law unnecessary.

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